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Good job!
Curious if they will teach nice crisp out, or will always calm the big boy off the bite. I'm sure is a work in progress.
I liked how the agitator charged the sitting dogo after the bite. Have to try that one at bite club.
Yea, I liked the control that the dog showed with the mock attacks. He stated on FB that they arent so concerned with the "outs" being that he is being trained for police work(its in Czech somewhere)
Note to self: Don't be a perp in Czeck
yeah, "outs" "call offs" F'em! lol
I guess you can always slip the perp's arm off - same way you would a jacket in training.
Hope he rethinks that or has it in the plan - you ever hear the saying you can call off a dog, but not a bullet. Might as well just send the bullet. Maybe its different over there.
I could imagine the court case in the US - "so mr. officer... why did you let your dogo mastiff jaguar hunter/wild boar skull crusher continue to shake around and tear off Mr. Snuffy's arm long after he gave up?"
A perp sure isn't going to stay as calm as the agitator even if he submits. If the dogo becomes hard to out on a perp it will be a reason for the public to protest against their use as a K9. The dogo's out should put the average shepherds or mals to shame if they want to avoid that. Should be easy enough to do by giving the big boy a rebite afterwards (not going to get far with jerks).
Do you know of any dogos that have had real bites on the job? I'm very curious. Like the one in the US - don't think he has one yet? Am I the only one that sees a major lawsuit for excessive force maybe not the first, but the second time one tears someones tricep off.
Would love to hear an experienced police k9 handlers opinion. Maybe that kind of force is granted there...?
I watching them on Facebook, have the guy and the PD as friends on FB, so will try to stay UTD with Inca's progress. Haven't heard of a civil bite yet from a dogo. I also know they also have Cane Corso on their force, (I am drawing a blank on the name, I met him, really nice temperament and conformation). they are in Massilion Ohio PD.
I know on the WDF, they were discussing leg bites and then it went into crotch bites and someone saying something about they dont do that cause that would be considered use of excessive force for a PSD, and that the dog's job is to merely find and hold the perp till the PD gets there, but I have heard of some PSD training where outs werent so "important". I've seen enough police video where I have seen the dogs pretty much beat/choked off the perps.
An oldie but goodie! Shows why the little mal is the king of the police dogs - for the intended purpose. Even with horrible ass control!! Minimum force and effective. You have to love the handler getting chewed on by his own dog. lol!
In real life...
my favorite... faster than the ax swinging at him...
That is one determined Mal in the second video. Even after a 40 second free for all fight, and with the police dragging the suspect out of the car, they still need to peel the dog off the guy. Not sure, but with this big of a guy it might be warranted to send in Inca!! Lol
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